This is a part of a series on the EPS- Every Passport Stamp Facebook group and Counting Countries podcast. This is the foreword to this piece:
My EPS Adventure- Behind the Scenes
Asked to Come Back
A Call to Ric Gazarian's Patrons
Ric, to my surprise, asked me if I'd care to get back on the podcast. Not expecting such a proposal, I was disarmed. I accepted it. However, I asked him why. He was honest:
"When I interview people... I want interesting characters. You are interesting since you have good travel stories, and also you have controversial opinions about travel and travel people. Usually that makes a good podcast.
Why i am offering u another opportunity. 1 you seem so upset w the podcast, i am giving you the opportunity to "Set the record straight" and 2 this podcast will probably be even more controversial with you expressing your opinion."
I did not really like his wanting to get controversy. Because you see... When I write and say something, all I am doing is expressing a sincere opinion, wanting a discussion on IDEAS, not people. I'm not looking for controversy like Ric to manipulate hits for profit. I seriously care about the topics I discuss, not about “who did what” gossip. But come and find the mature enough person to engage in such a conversation!
However, I wanted the opportunity to set the record straight. That's something I always want. So I was still fine with going on the podcast again.
However... In the meantime, he published the unedited podcast on his FB group saying "Who could guess travel could be so controversial?" and commented he got a threat to be sued if he didn't take the podcast down.
Now... I believe it is quite understandable that I, as the person who gave the interview and talked about people being the main subject of the threat, wanted to know who this person was coming up with a legal action remark. I didn't think there was any reason cause for legal action in the interview but wanted to understand just in case.
I suppose you would grant me the right to know.
However, Ric was not of the same opinion. "Sorry I can not divulge" he answered.
You see... I'm like the Little Prince a bit, I do not give up on things so easily when I wish to understand. My name was out there. I was the one doing the talking openly. I believed I had a right to know who had threatened and on what grounds.
At that point, Ric was upset and said he was going to take the podcast down.
Yeah I understand, I didn't even have the right to ask!
He said I was tiring. Yes, I am tiring. True. But who is the one tiring who in the first place?!
"I agree Ric," I said. "It is very tiring for me. Had you just answered a simple question with 'Janice (or Jessica). No, of course there isn't anything for legal action in the podcast' or simply said 'I do not want to/cannot divulge because of such and such' it would have been much simpler and easier on both of us."
That was the end of our communication with Ric.
You see... It's very unreasonable (!) and irrational (!) of me to want to know who threatens legal action for the opinions I express!
A Podcast Gone Wrong
Tantrums and Rants